Dyer: Now we’re ready to start.

Cox:  I’ll start leaching, yes. 

Dyer: Right now what you have there on the screen?

Cox:  Is like paste-like.  This is the acorn but it has to be…it has to need more water.  The bitterness is still down the bottom…

Dyer: Uh-huh.

Cox:  It can’t go through.  See then you pour the water in like this.  It’s supposed to be warm water first and you pour it down slow, then it spreads out from these…uh…cedars.  See it spreads it out without making a hole. If you put it down like this, it’ll dig a hole and wash the things out, so…

Dyer:  So you’re pouring what should be warm water over cedar boughs…

Cox:  Warm water over cedar bough on the acorn.

Dyer: On the acorn meal?

Cox:  Yeah that’s leaching.

Dyer:  And that leaches it out?

Cox:  Yeah.

Dyer:  And what does the cedar do to it though?

Cox:  Well that helps spread some water…

Stanley: (___) (___)…

Cox: Yeah.

Stanley:  All around.

Cox:  And it gives better taste.  The water don’t wash out too fast and it helps takes the bitterness out. 

Stanley:  It gives it a little cedar taste to it.

Cox:  Yeah.

Dyer:  It gives a little cedar taste, huh?  That’s…

Cox:  Uh…

Dyer: …your condiment, huh?

Cox:  Sometimes you can grind little cedar in your acorn would make a little cedar-y taste too; not too much because…

Stanley:  Bitter.

Cox:  Yeah.  See now then I wash these down when the water’s in here; get it all (___) there’s no acorns and then it’ll be settled. 

Stanley:  It settles by itself.

Cox:  Yeah…in this bowl.  See how milk it is.

Dyer:  Uh-huh.

Cox:  Let it settle.

Dyer:  It’s beginning to take on a kind of chalk-y appearance…

Cox:  Yeah.

Dyer:  …in that a little…

Cox: Like milk. 

Dyer: A little bit milk, huh?

Cox:  This all has to be even otherwise they’ll be bitter places.

Dyer: Uh-huh.

Cox:  And make it all even. 

Dyer:  Now what are you doing now?

Cox:  I’m spreading it out trying to make it even…trying to make it so all that bitterness can go out without leaving one spot with it.

Stanley:  The water kind of…

Cox:  …goes through, yeah, spread out.  Now (___) making more water.

Dyer:  Mary, can you do a large quantity?

Cox:  Yes. 

Dyer:  …rather than…

Cox:  We have…I have a large table and it makes about two…about…oh, this big fold acorn (___) leaks.

Dyer:  Uh-huh.

Cox:  And that’s…when move part of this, I’ll have this thing full about another half-full.

Dyer:  Uh-huh.

Cox:  And that makes about over…I make about 300 breads to 400 sometimes.  One year we made 600 and that wasn’t enough. 

Dyer:  It wasn’t enough?

Cox:  No it wasn’t enough for the people.  They always like the bread better than they do the acorn, but a lot of them take the acorn too, and a lot of them take these already leached acorns and take it home so they can make it whenever they wanna make it.

Dyer:  Uh-huh.

Cox:  But we never sell it.  We always…well they can donate some, but we never sell our acorns to another Indian.

Dyer:  Uh-huh.

Cox:  We always give it to them.  Of course that’s Indian food I guess.  Yeah now we just have to let that go through (___) leach into them underneath. 

Dyer:  So then it really is a time-consuming process…

Cox: Yes.

Dyer: …to leach it?

Cox:  Yeah.  This one took all night to leach.

Dyer:  Do you keep just a little running water…

Cox:  Yeah I had it on my faucet and I had the faucet running on and off.

Dyer:  I see.

Cox: Because it was freezing outside.  I didn’t wanna leave it outside. If it freezes, these would turn into like little shakes and spoil.  Yeah that just fits right into my sink there. 

Dyer:  So you do it at your sink then and you just keep the water on it…

Cox:  Yeah.

Dyer: …and…how long does it…*Cox interrupts* (4:32)

Cox:  Let the water run according to how much acorn you’ll have, you’ll have to just test it.  I put mine at about one o’clock this morning and it’s been running since when my son got up at seven and he turned it off, but I found out we’re still (___) underneath.  But I took the top off.  That’s not bitter that’s ready to be cooked now. 

Dyer:  Uh-huh.

Cox:  Can we try the other one?

Dyer: Alright do we want to…

Cox: I have to mix it.

Dyer:  Ok.

Cox:  Can I mix it here?

Dyer:  Why don’t you mix it here so that Ron can photograph some of it and then we can go inside.  Alright now what are you doing now, Mary?  You’re pouring water into…

Cox:  Into the (___) leached acorn then I’ll stir it around, see, then you have to find just some acorn that isn’t grind.  This has to be found.

Stanley:  In perfection into the white (___) (___). 

Dyer: The old acorn grinders were better.

Cox:  Yeah…see how it turns like milk?

Dyer:  Uh-huh.

Cox:  But there’s some coarse stuff and we always have more strainer, but I (___) (___). 

Stanley:  I have a strainer here.  What’d you do with it?

Dyer:  Uh, it’s over there somewhere I think.  Wasn’t it over there?

Cox:  I’ve seen it somewhere.

Stanley: No I’ve seen it…I’ve got a…oh here it is.

Cox:  Oh.  Now that takes all that little cedar and beans then takes it in here.

Dyer:  Uh-huh.

Cox:  Then you get that fine milk. 

Dyer:  Now I noticed that you really weren’t measuring very carefully.  You…

Cox:  No I never measure.

Dyer:  You never worry about that.

Cox:  No you just…

Stanley:  No.

Cox:  …you just tell by the acorn how you could tell how…but if you put too much water, it’ll be watery taste.  You just have to have enough acorns to kind of thick like gravy.

Dyer:  Uh-huh.

Cox:  This is what it is…it’s like gravy.  Not too much water in there. 

Dyer:  So it’s experience that enables you to determine if it’s the right consistency?

Cox:  Yeah…see…then you wash this out…course it’s got some more in here. 

Dyer:  Does the color change as you continue to leach it and to…

Cox:  Yes because this one here was brown…I mean this acorn was brown before I leached it. 

Dyer: Uh-huh.

Cox:  You could see it.  See how brown it was.

Dyer:  Uh-huh it’s almost the color of brown sugar, isn’t it?

Cox:  Yeah…then it turns white as you leach all the bitterness is going out of it. 

Dyer:  So it’s a little bit darker than flour.

Cox: Yeah.

Dyer:  Are you gonna have a feast when you finish?

Cox:  Yeah.

Dyer:  Christmas party?

Cox:  Should’ve brought the salmon down. 

Stanley:  I want an old chuck steak.  I like chuck steak with it. 

Cox:  Broil it below the fire.

Stanley:  Fire.

Dyer:  Do you…when you use salmon with it, do you cook the salmon or do you eat it raw?

Cox: No…

Stanley:  Raw…

Cox:  …we cook…

Stanley:  …I mean we cook it, broil it. 

Cox:  Now we save this for the chickens. 

Dyer:  It’s chicken feed then, huh?

Cox:  Yeah…fattening.

Dyer:  They like that?

Cox:  Yeah. Now this one we will cook because it be…see how it looks?  It’s like milk. 

Dyer:  Uh-huh.  It almost looks like a cereal; like on the bottom…like…

Cox:  Yeah we just cook this little one, huh?  That’s for my rock.  Yeah I need this for…

Stanley:  Oh I put that chicken (___) (___).

Cox:  No that’s for the rock.  Oh you got one?

Stanley:  I got one.

Cox:  Ok you got it good water?

Stanley:  Yeah hot water.

Cox:  Really?

Dyer:  Now what’s your next step?

Cox: Now I have to take this in the round house and…

Dyer:  Ok.

Cox:  …I’m ready to cook it.

Dyer:  You’re ready to cook it?

Cox:  Yeah.

Dyer:  Mary, why don’t you tell us again how the fire should be built.

Cox:  The fire should be built…

Stanley: It’s kind of like boiling it (___).

Cox: What had?

Stanley:  This pan.

Cox:  Oh you can’t use it now?

Stanley:  No.  (___) (___) (___).

Cox:  If we had sap it would be alright because it would be dirty and you could put it on the ground.

Stanley:  Yeah.

Cox:  Oh here’s a barley…

Stanley: Huh?

Cox:  A barely sack in here.

Stanley: Ok.

Cox:  See…

Dyer:  Now how did you build the fire?

Cox:  The fire?  I always put the,  you can put the nine (___) creeks (___) (___) and then afterwards, once you can start them, put them (___) (___) of pine needles and twigs on top.  Then the wood comes on next and they have to be laid straight like this.

Stanley: (___) (___).

Cox:  Yeah. Then you put two big logs one side like…oh like this side and one on this side.  Then after you put all the wood on top then you put the rocks on.

Dyer:  The two big logs are…

Cox:  The logs on this side and this side hold the rocks from falling out.

Dyer:  So they stay?

Cox:  And they stay right here in the fire…

Dyer: In the fire?

Cox: ‘til they get real hot, yeah.  They…

Dyer:  Are the rocks something special…

Cox:  The rocks going to be on top in this corner, yeah, they’re soap stones.

Dyer:  Soap stones?

Cox:  Yeah those are soap stones.

Dyer:  So they don’t…

Cox:  Yeah.

Dyer: …crack?

Cox:  Yeah.  Before using when they’re new, you have to burn them like this…burn them when they’re new but the others go right after once they crack up the old ones, but these are new rocks.  They didn’t crack (___) they explode.

Dyer: I see.  Now what are you using to move the rocks around?

Cox:  These two big spicks. 

Dyer: Are they…now what kind of wood is that?

Cox:  That’s cedar.

Dyer:  It’s a cedar?

Cox:  Cedar, yeah.

Stanley: Great…mother’s day.

Dyer:  What…mother’s day?

Cox:  You want me (___) (___) make it two, and this has to be all even.  See, it’s gonna have a hard time getting the rocks.  Well…they burned anyways, see, if they’re not straight. 

Dyer:  Is that so you can…

Cox:  Pick up the rocks?

Dyer:  …keep the rocks on…

Cox:  Yeah.

Dyer:  …in the right place in the fire pit?

Cox:  Yeah and when you take it out and put it in the water, then into the acorn. 

Dyer:  So next to the fire, you a…looks like a cast iron kettle.

Cox: Yeah.

Dyer:  And the (___) box…

Cox:  It’s to wash the ashes and stuff off of the rocks after you get it off from the fire.

Dyer:  Oh I see.

Cox:  Put it right in there…

Dyer: And you clean?...

Cox:  ….and it goes into the (___), yeah.

Dyer: And then you put it in the clean rock…

Cox: Into the…

Dyer:  …into the acorn kettle.

Cox:  Yeah.

Dyer:  What’s our next step now?

Cox:  Well I have to wait for the rocks to get hot.

Stanley:  There’s some of them (___) (___).   Yeah there’s a couple of them.

Cox: (___) (___).

Dyer:  Now before you had the kettles available…

Cox:  They used to use baskets.

Dyer:  They used baskets?

Cox:   Yeah I had one at the house and I forgot it.  It’s up there, but it’s got a hole underneath that burned out.  The rocks burned, but they thicker in the other basket.  They’re real thick; about that thick. 

Dyer:  So about a quarter of an inch…

Cox:  Yeah.

Dyer:  …to a half an inch thick?

Cox:  Yeah thicker than other baskets.  Then they’ll take it out of there.  The one they heat the rocks in there too (___) baskets. 

Dyer: Uh-huh.

Cox:  I (___) (___) rock to heat the water. 

Dyer:  But you would have to keep the rock moving it around so it wouldn’t burn through the basket?

Cox: Yeah, yeah they have to stir it around with this little stirrer…it goes around.  Then when you making your hot water, then you have to move the rocks around to get keep the basket from burning. 

Dyer: Now what’s Dorothy doing?

Cox:  She’s trying to…

Stanley:  I’m trying…

Cox:  …get me rocks. 

Stanley:  I like that.

Dyer:  The gravel looks pretty hot.  The sticks are almost ready to burst into flames. 

Cox:  Now…that….

Dyer:  I don’t think you know how to use chop-sticks very well.

Stanley:  Well these things…they’re…that rock is real slippery. 

Dyer: Ah.  It’s almost white hot.

Stanley:  Yeah it is.  It’s real slippery.  See I like the round ones like this kind.  That one’s hot though and my son had to come in and I went over to Coulterville and this old man sold us this (___) for $15 and they had it cut, but see what they’d done, they hadn’t left any edges for you to hold it with. 

Dyer: Oh it’s been cut?

Stanley: Yeah.

Dyer:  That’s why you see the…

Stanley:  Yeah that’s why…it was a big, whole rock about that big and that high.  See it just slides. 

Dyer:  Uh-huh.

Cox:  But you are sticking…

Dyer:  There you go.

Cox: …water in the (___). 

Stanley:  Where’s the…

Cox:  Right here.  You (___) with this.

Dyer:  Now you have a…

Cox:  Yeah then it goes down into the acorn there.

Dyer: Now that is one stick that has been made into a hoop, isn’t it?

Cox: Yeah.

Dyer: So that you can handle the hot rock or move it around…

Cox:  Uh-huh move it around.

Dyer:  …in your kettle heating up the acorn.

Cox:  Acorn and you can heat your waters.

Dyer:  Does it have a better flavor if you do it this way say…

Cox:  Yeah.

Dyer: …if you do it…

Cox:  …it adds more flavor instead of cooking it on the stove.  A lot of people cook it on the stove and it has a kind of sour taste, but the rocks make it kind of burned tasting because it has better (___).  You have to keep moving these rocks around so it won’t stick or burn. 

Dyer:  Do you try to get some of the ashes in it to add flavor?

Cox:  No we never do ashes.

Dyer:  So you always…

Cox: that’s (___) too big…trying to (___) lid one and (___) (___)…

Stanley:  I don’t understand it. Here’s another (___). 

Dyer:   See that’s quite hot.

Cox:  Yeah, that’s the good one.

Dyer:  The cloud will (___)…

Cox: (___) (___) water…

Dyer:  So your rocks will stay hot then for some time?

Stanley:  Oh yeah.

Cox:  Yeah.  It’ll be boiling really soon I think if I can see.  Yeah put it over here, Dorothy.  It goes in…oh no water. 

Dyer:  Now you’re putting that gunny sack now?  Is that for the rocks?

Cox:  For the rocks when I take it out.

Dyer:  So that they’ll stay clean?

Cox:  Yeah.  It’s supposed to be a big…

Stanley:  I’ll get (___)…

Cox:  …a can of water. Don’t see what I’m doing…

Dyer:  Did your mother and grandmother usually make the acorn soup and bread in the round house?

Cox:  They used to make it out by the spring. My grandmother had a spring, but they never did make it…I never did see them make it in the house.  They always made it outdoors. 

Dyer: Now is it getting thick now, Mary? I can’t see through all that steam. 

Cox:  Yeah.   I think it’s boiling.  I think it’s…

Dyer:  Smells like somethings cooking. 

Cox:  Wouldn’t that melt it?

Stanley:  Well you just get it out real fast. 

Cox:  Find my pan…let’s see how they do.

Dyer:  Now you’re taking out one of the rocks?

Cox:  No it’s still hot.

Dyer: (___) (___) (___). 

Cox:  I’m trying to look at it.

Dyer:  When you see the…

Cox: Yeah.

Dyer:  …acorn bubbling…

Cox:  Sticks to it.

Dyer: It sticks to it (___)?

Cox: Yeah. 

Stanley:  Maybe it’s (___) (___). 

Dyer:  How long does it usually take to cook?  Well you must have…what about a gallon in there?

Cox:  No.

Dyer:  About that…

Cox:  Just about a half a gallon. 

Dyer:  Half a gallon?

Cox:  But when I make it, it comes way up here. 

Dyer:  So you must have these ten gallons…

Cox:  Yeah about ten gallons and it takes about…about 30 minutes.

Dyer:  Mmm and then it’s cooked?

Cox: Yeah as long as you got hot rocks, you can cook it faster.  The rock (__) (__).  It’s better when they’re real, red hot.  Then it cooks them faster. 

Dyer:  Some of the rocks you still had in the fire.  Does that mean that you gonna put some of the…

Cox:  Yeah.

Dyer:  …hot ones in and take these out?

Cox:  Take these out, then put some more in, yeah.  But this one here is boiling already, didn’t you see?  Steam.

Stanley:  Yeah it’s still boiling. 

Dyer:  I can hear it bubbling.

Cox: unlike stick (___).  I can tell by my other…

Dyer:  The golden brown color?

Cox:  Uh-huh.

Dyer:  Why do you use manzanita for the fire?

Cox:  So you heat up the rock faster and they keep them hot too…

Dyer:  The manzanita is…

Cox:  …they don’t give no ugly taste to it because (___), but if you use any other kind of branches of wood, they have smell to them. 

Dyer:  But the manzanita burns a lot hotter than other woods then?

Cox:  I remember one time my brother-in-law was cutting the trees with (___) put a lot of apple in the acorn and I said,  “kind of taste like apple.”  It didn’t taste like acorn it taste…my little sister (___) (___). 

Dyer:  Wow that manzanita is putting out a lot of heat.

Cox:  Yeah.  This one they ain’t supposed to burn in the stove because it breaks up the stove (___) (___) it burns too hot. 

Dyer:  I would assume that a good box like this would be very valuable possession in the Indian family’s home.

Cox:  Yeah.

Stanley:  Course (___) gonna give ‘em to you.

Cox:  Yeah.

Stanley:  And I got something from Mariposa (___) (___) (___).

Dyer:  Do we have any soap stone quarry’s around here where…*Stanley interrupts* (21:50).

Stanley: Uh, you have to go to the Calaveras (___) in Coulterville. 

Cox:  Calaveras hasn’t got good ones.

Stanley:  No.  Coulterville has the best (___) (___). 

Dyer:  But it’s the soap stone that’s the best?

Cox:  Yeah.  But yet only the Indians only used to pick up their rocks around the river to a certain kind of rock.

Dyer:  Uh-huh.

Cox:  It’s related to these soap stones.  You have to know how to pick them out though. 

Dyer:  Well I could understand you wouldn’t want a rock that crack or crumble while you’re cooking. 

Cox:  I don’t think this little stick is going to work Dorothy.

Stanley:  No.

Cox:  No.

Dyer:  Is that a willow stick that you’re using to stir?

Cox:  I don’t know what this is.

Stanley: Craig made…yeah Craig made that up. 

Cox:  Well with a willow, you don’t supposed to…

Stanley:  No it’s redbud.

Dyer:  Is that redbud?

Stanley:  I’m quite sure it’s redbud.

Cox:  No you’re supposed to make it out of chaparral.

Stanley: Maybe that’s what it is.  

Cox:  Yeah.

Dyer:  Now you’re cleaning up?

Cox:  I’m trying to take it out.  Oh that’s going to be work.  I wish I had my other one. 

Stanley:  Can’t find that spoon. 

Dyer:  Well those rocks must weigh several pounds.

Cox:  Oh yeah.

Dyer:  Ok you got it now. 

Cox:  Yeah. 

Dyer:  Still sizzling.

Stanley: Oh yeah.

Cox:  Yeah.

Dyer:  Did that burn your finger when you…*Cox interrupts* (23:34)

Cox:  Yeah it does.

Dyer:  You’re washing off the…

Cox:  …acorn.

Dyer:  …acorn.

Cox:  Don’t wanna waste it. 

Dyer:  Well now you’ve taken the rock out…

Cox:  Yeah.

Dyer:  …and it in the…*Cox interrupts* (23:45)

Cox:  …in the cold water. 

Dyer:  …the cold water. 

Cox:  Clean cold water. 

Dyer:  Will that go back in the fire?

Cox:  Then it goes back in the fire.  See, we never leave acorns on like this when we get through, we burn it back so…*Dyer interrupts* (24:00)

Dyer:  So it’s clean.

Cox: (___) be burned the clean rock when you use it next time.

Dyer:  So Dorothy is going to…*Stanley interrupts* (24:06)

Stanley:  Try it. 

Cox: You put that in there.

Stanley:   I like…

Dyer: (___) (___).

Stanley:  Try.

Dyer:  Just gonna try it…

Cox:  This real, slimy…slippery, slimy…

Dyer: Just going to put it back in the fire.

Stanley:  Gonna try.

Dyer:  Burn off the acorn.

Cox:  Acorn, yeah.  Come on.

Stanley:  I never was good at this, but I’ve always tried.  Let it cool…yeah just throw it over. 

Dyer: I think that’s too big.  It’s (___) (___) your hands; make it fun.  Well that’s really taking on that cook look.

Stanley:  Uh-huh…(___) (___). 

Dyer: Now it’s not steaming quite as much as…*Cox interrupts* (25:23)

Cox: No it isn’t.

Dyer:  …it was before, so…

Cox:  …so the rocks are getting cooled off, not boiling like the rest.

Dyer:  Now have you made that whole kettle…kettle full of acorn, those must take a lot of rocks and…*Cox interrupts* (25:39)

Cox: Yeah it does. 

Dyer:  You just have to keep that fire going and…

Stanley:  Uh-huh all the time.

Dyer:  So you’re really talking about two women…*Stanley interrupts* (25:47)

Stanley: ….doing all the time…

Dyer:  …really moving to keep it done.

Cox:  Sometimes I do it alone and I don’t have no help.  I pick up my rocks, sit down, (___) (___), then…it’s not too bad when you get to know how…

Stanley:  You just kind of…

Cox:  Yeah it’s…(___) (___).  This one is going to fall.

Stanley:  There’s five down there.  There we go.

Cox: (___) (___) on the ground.  Now see if you can get me one more little rock.  If you just find…*Stanley interrupts* (26:29)

Stanley: (___) (___).

Cox:  No that’s too big for it.  This one right in here…it’s mostly in here.  (Dyer talking in the background 26:33).

Dyer:  This end there’s a…

Cox:  Yeah right there.

Dyer:  Looks like a slippery one you’re getting…

Cox:  Yeah.

Dyer:  …so you know how to handle that though. Look at that. 

Stanley:  Oh no I’ve dropped them…I’ve dropped them before. 

Dyer:  That’s…

*can’t hear Stanley* (26:52-26:56)

Stanley:  Mad.

Dyer:  Not like it’s doing it’s supposed to do.

Stanley:  See how hot they are.  You smell that acorn now?

Dyer:  Yeah I can…I can smell it.

Cox:  Give him a hot rock and show him to make those little tortillas.

Stanley:  Yeah I got one. 

Cox:  There.

Dyer:  Oh you just take a hot rock from the fire…

Cox:  Yeah from the fire, yeah.

Dyer:  …and then you put…like a pancake…

Cox:  Yeah…

Stanley:  Yeah make little burritos or whatever you call….not burrito’s…eh, what’s it called those little…

Cox:  Taco.

Stanley:  No those like…potato chips.

Cox:  Yeah.

Dyer: Oh a tostado?

Stanley: No what do you call a potato chip…those little chips that you…

Cox & Stanley:  Corn chips.

Dyer:  Corn chips.

Cox:  Taste like..

Dyer:  Can be an acorn chip.

Stanley:  Yeah.

Dyer:  So you use a flat surface one of the hot rocks that you would grill… 

Stanley:  Yeah those flat ones.  (talking as same time as above).

Dyer:  …and it just put some of the acorn meal (___). 

Cox:  Would be at it all day. 

Dyer:  Would it slow…would it spoil the cook’s recipe if I tried ‘em?

Stanley:  No.

Dyer:  Let me try to get that one over. 

Stanley: (___) (___) (___).

Dyer:  Ok now you wanna put this one back in the fire?

Cox: Any one. 

Stanley: (___) (___) and this ones like chop sticks.

Dyer:  I was never really good at using chop sticks either.  I see what she means.  That is very slippery.

Stanley: Yeah.

Cox:  We didn’t bring any little pots to pour this in, huh?

Stanley:  I don’t know.

Dyer:  Yeah it’s even cooking the…*Cox interrupts* (28:47)

Cox:  …sack.

Dyer:  …the sack there.

Cox:  Yeah.  No wonder it doesn’t come out.

Dyer:  It doesn’t want to leave it.  There we go.

Cox:  Yeah.

Dyer:  Ok soap stone.  Back in the fire?

Cox:  Back in the fire like the others did now. 

Dyer:  You want this other one back too?

Cox:  The other one too. 

Dyer:  It’s gonna burn the sack. 

Cox:  Uh, yeah so hot. 

Dyer:  Geez that’s a nice size one.  That must…be about a size of a softball.  There we go…also in the fire?

Cox:  Yeah.

Dyer:  K.  Now do you want another one from…

Cox: Oh no (___) (___). 

Dyer:  But you had to keep moving them around here…

Cox:  Yeah.

Dyer:  …so it burns off?

Cox:  No, they didn’t burn off like that, but you put wood on top of it. 

Stanley & Cox: (___) (___).

Cox:  Huh?

Stanley:  I better got get me another one, huh?

Cox:  Yeah.  They can be cleaned though. 

Stanley: *Hard to hear in background* (30:16)

Dyer:  Ok.

Cox:  See if they got some in the holes. 

END TAPE

General Information

Interviewer:  Richard L. Dyer
Interviewee:  Mary Cox and Dorothy Stanley
Name of Tape:  Making Acorn Bread
When: 1974
Transcriber:  Dee-Ann Horn
Transcribed: 6/23/18